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I so can’t wait until their last movie is out and over so they can “officially” break up and we never have to hear about them again.

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• From your words to all the gossip sites consumed with two of the most boring actors around. All I have to do is see his name on a movie and it’s finished for me. Loved the book “Water for Elephants” but haven’t seen the movie. RP and Reese W were wrong for the main characters and I can’t imagine any chemistry between these two in the least.

  Kristin plays Kristin in every movie I’ve seen with her. Won’t be seeing On the Road for that reason.

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  • You should watch WFE..it was very good and Rob was so good looking in it. He and Reese were good together. I can’t understand why people want to comment if they find someone boring..why even come on the site and comment at all? Because you are just like the rest of us..facinated by Rob and Kristen.

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  • I, too , believe, Kristen plays HERSELF in every movie. Is this common knowledge, because I haven’t read anybody’s critique mentioning that. It’s bad acting all around, but even more sad that the directors allow it and I guess, agree to it. She may be a good a person to her friends, but to the public, she’s gnarly THEN we have to see it on the screen, too.

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An imagined conversation … *dream sequence music*

Rob â€" Babe, what was with you at dinner? We’re supposed to look like we love each other!
Kristen â€" …
R â€" We do, right?
K â€" …..
R â€" Right?
K â€" *lights a cigarette* Yeah. Whatever, dude. I’ll keep you posted.
R â€" Come on, can we at least give this a shot, for Bear’s sake?
K â€" *eyeroll* Tch … What d’you think we’re f*cking doing? I let you f*cking look at me, don’t I? I mean, you’re so f*cking fake, signing onto that Bin Laden project that it’s a wonder I let you in the same room with my genuinely genuine *real* artistry. I mean, like … tch. F*ck that.
R â€" We’re still on for our armpit sesh tonight, yeah?
K â€" … Whatever dude. You remembered to hand in your man card last week, didn’t you?
R â€" I gave it to you to shred when you were writing your name on my sparkle stick with that sharpie.
K â€" … Oh yeah. God, you’re so f*cking fake I have to do everything for you.
R â€" I know. You’re the best.
http://cheezburger.com/template/954807

The link pretty much sums up their entire ‘relationship’.

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• Great post and purrfect link!!! Pattz really does look like that bunny.

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â€"never read the stuff nor saw the moviesâ€"it’s for 20 somethings, right?

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• I thought so too, until I saw Pattinson (and Taylor Lautner) on Ellen… some of the women in the audience went completely batshit. One middle-aged woman was crying hysterically. To their credit, neither of them were cocky about it, they were polite. They seemed like nice young guys… maybe kinda bland.

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  • Generally speaking, Twihards and most of Rob’s fanbase is much older than tweens and teens. Just look at the fans who come to see the cast at their personal appearances. These are grown women, not little teenyboppers, waiting for autographs and pictures. That is the biggest misconception about Twihards.

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There was a tweet posted on the Gossip Cop board from someone who was there too and said the complete opposite. She said that he had his arm across her lap and she had was rubbing his neck and there were a few kisses. I think the media is just trying to make something out of nothing because its more interesting.

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• Rergarding the PDA, not everyone goes for that and if she doesn’t want to be groped, she shouldn’t allow it. EXCEPT she had no problem with PDA OUTSIDE in public with Rupert. But I digress.

  Not saying that I believe the NY Daily News story as 100% truth, but I also wouldn’t believe ANYTHING posted by the commenters at Gossip Cop. That is Robsten-loving central.

  According to some of those same folk, Kristen never cheated at all. The entire scandal was perpetrated upon Kristen by Rupert and Liberty so they could make names for themselves. Now these same people conveniently forget that Kristen went and picked Rupert up in HER own car, but why should the facts get in the way of them excusing their queen for backing her ass up onto married peen?

  Of anything, I believe the People comment that Kaiser also posted. Because I believe that the “source” for that story was the same “source” for all the other Robsten stories in People mag: Kristen’s PR team.

  What I believe they’re now doing, since they’ve controlled all other aspects of this farce, is painting the picture of Rob as suffocating, pathetic, needy man who is stifling poor Kristen’s burgeoning womanhood.

  And for their PR narrative, that’s why she cheated in the first place, ya know? It can’t be that she’s just not woman enough to end relationships properly. No, someone else is always to blame for her f*ck-ups.

  Rob may be all of those things BUT he also did his part in saving her public image. You’d think she could at least put on a thankful front through the end of the year but clearly that won’t be the case, because she’s already back to mocking Rob (in one of the interviews from last week, she mocked his posture and demeanor).

  Kristen and her PR team are the lowest of the low desperate-for-fame-and-relevance scumbags. Kristen has SO much bad karma coming back her way that I almost feel sorry for her. Except she’s so smug and insufferable that I don’t.

  For Rob, all I can say is I hope somebody gets him counseling WHEN she dumps him because he’s going to be a freaking emotional mess when she tosses him aside for good. He made his choice when he took her back, so I have no sympathy for him. But I don’t think this is playing out like he thought it would.

  He clearly doesn’t understand the depths the love of his life is willing to go to for all she really cares about: fame.

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• NYDN is as reliable as Star magazine

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  • Considering Rob’s composure and his passive-aggressive behavior during the promo he definitely knows what he’s doing and he won’t be the one to be defeated in the end. I’m surprised how people picture him as a fool â€" btw, he’s rich, young, handsome, witty, with a bunch of interesting projects in the work and a possible 3-year Dior-deal. It’s just ridiculous, so many people think he needs sympathy.

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  • It’s funny how certain people believe stories like this one straightaway yet completely dismiss others that paint Rob and Kristen as happy and affectionate. Pap pics, like the recent ones taken at their new house showing them all lovey-dovey, are fake and staged for PR purposes even though they looked like they were taken with a long range lens without their knowledge. Sorry, I never thought those paps pics were staged.

    This is not the 1940s or 1950s when movie studios controlled the lives of their actors. At the end of the first Twilight, Rob cut all of his Edward hair off, a move the
    studio wasn’t thrilled with but Rob did it anyway. Same with Kristen. When she was filming The Runaways, she cut her hair into that very unflattering Joan Jett mullet.

    If Summit couldn’t even keep Rob or Kristen from
    chopping off their hair for film continuity reasons, do you honestly think they were able to make them put their personal lives on hold for 4 years to fake a romantic relationship? Like any 18 year old girl and 21 year old guy are going to agree to do that during the height of their sexuality!

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• Michele, I agree that it’s not Summit PR. However, it IS Kristen’s personal PR.

  I also agree that the house pics weren’t staged. Rob bringing Kristen a drink and a towel after the way she publicly humiliated him was the most pitiful thing I’ve ever seen in my life. No PR people could have forced him to do that. That was the behavior of a lovesick person.

  Where you and I differ however, is about whether there is a mutual love. I have no doubt that he loves her. But, I think that Kristen’s love for him is in the past tense and has been since she cheated with Rupert (and probably before). That’s why her public PR “I love him I love him” campaign is so unpalatable and disgusting.

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:-/ ugh! Oh Rob! WHY??? Can’t you see she’s not into you anymore?

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• Was she ever?

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• when was she ever into him? even before she cheated there were always reports about him being into her more. hopefully, he will break up with her soon, but i think she will do the breaking up. there are so many better women out there that don’t act like kristen stewart.

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My opinion? WARNING: no conspiracy theory and soap opera plot lines.

He likes her. She does not like him.

Maybe she liked him once, when they first started dating, but she quickly grew disinterested. She likely felt pressure because of the franchise and from the studio without any contracts or anything explicitly said and tried to deal with him.

But as any of us has ever felt when you just don’t like the guy, you just don’t like him.

She cheated because Rupert made her feel something and was happy because now she could have the passion and not dump Rob. Cake and eating it too, not damage her career and finally feel some heat. The cheating broke and suddenly her world was upside down. She was probably terrified for her career, for Twilight, for her safety, hell maybe she was even sorry for Rob.

I know I’ve been in the position (never cheating) where I start to be sympathetic for a guy and think: Why can’t I be with him and like him, he’s a nice guy, just suck it up and try. She went to EXTREMES to try and get her pre-scandal life back and as such weaseled her way back with Rob.

Now: He likes her. She STILL doesn’t like him. She’s back with Sparkles, she’s probably still bored with him. She’s realizing the whole franchise is suffocating and she isn’t going to magically fall in (back?) in love with Rob. Its coming to an end and she’s likely going to look for another film that will give her some stability for her career that was damaged as a result of SWATH. Once she feels like she could command another franchise and have some power in the industry she’s likely going to re-evaluate how much she wants Rob.

So honestly…they’re right back where they started. They probably will break up soon, and SHE probably will dump him. Its sad, but Rob should have held her to a higher standard because it seems she doesn’t respect him. Now in the end he’s likely going to feel confused and angry because he forgave her and in the end still got screwed.

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• you’re probably right..

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• I think this is an accurate assessment based on what we’ve seen.

  I would just add that Kristen and her PR henchfolk, in their efforts to wipe her dirty slate clean, went too far and now Rob and Liberty are somehow the bad guys and Kristen is praised for her *strength* during the *difficult time* that she and Rupert created.

  I just still can’t get past the pre-scandal interview where Kristen said her life is too easy and she wanted something to f*ck her over. Only other people got scr*wed in the process. That is beyond messed up, but then again, so is she.

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  • Dont backtrack megsie, your first posts months ago were filled with “i know liberty let me explain”. You tried to correct me when i said liberty grew up in la. Did you see her latest interview where she comfirmed i was right? You knew all ab the malibu trailer, her siblings her old boyfriend. Little late to act like you dont jnow the dirty details on rupert. You are protecting him and going only after kristen. You are a good friend to liberty

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• Riana, I believe that’s as close to the truth as we’re likely to get.

  Bottom line is Rob is a nice guy. Kristen is at that stage in life (made worse by profession and lifestyle) where she doesn’t yet appreciate the nice guy. Most of us have been there, right? She wants something dangerous, hyperemotional, on the edge. Something naughty. And she’s young and foolish enough to believe that means ‘real.’

  If the girl who claims to abhor anything false and fake had only been honest with herself she might have spared a few innocent people a great deal of heartache.

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  • Hiya megsie, friend of liberty! So you know not only liberty, her family and rupert but rob and kristen as well! I do find it interesting that there is only one bad guy in this whole situation according to you and your peeps, the kristen stewart. Waiting patiently for you to offer up your thoughts on rupert!

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  • I have never met Kristen, Beth. Just my opinion.

    I don’t think Kristen is ‘the bad guy’ though she (and Rupert) did commit the crime, so to speak. Neither of the four are black or white imo, but various shades of gray. Same as most of us.

    What would you like me to say about Rupert?

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  • Oh megsie, love how you always gotta throw the dig at kristen and not rupert. If only kristen had done this or that and pointing out all her many flaws. Again i ask you, what about rupert. Certainly if you have this much insight on kristen, you can find some time to share your insider insight on rupert. Or is that not part of the “deal”.

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  • What do i want you to say about rupert? Funny, you dont need any direction when it comes to saying something about kristen but you are scratching your head about rupert! Come on now, you psychoanalyze kristen and robert and you dont know them, you offer up explanantions for liberty when people are cruel and with rupert you are drawing a blank? Come on, why would he cheat on liberty and with kristen? Its just crazy.

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  • Beth, we’re all psychoanalyzing. It’s a gossip site.

    I spoke mainly of Kristen because the story we’re commenting on concerns her.

    fwiw I don’t currently think highly of Rupert, but I don’t believe he’s the devil incarnate any more than I do Kristen. He’s not the first man I’ve seen succumb to a nasty mix of mid life crisis, stress, ego, and a pretty face. But he treated his family, and also Kristen tbh, with a level of disregard and disrepect I haven’t seen in a good long time.

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  • But megsie, you KNOW liberty and rupert so this goes beyond gossipy psychoanalysing. Oh amd trust me, you find a way to bring kristen up on liberty posts, just not rupert. Want to play a little tit for tat? You tell me why rupert would want to step out on liberty with someonelike kristen and i will tell you why kristen stepped out on rob with someonelike rupert

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  • I never said I knew Liberty, Beth.

    I don’t believe either of us could discuss with any certainy precisely what caused Rupert and Kristen to cheat. I’d guess they don’t fully understand. I could make a few general remarks about Rupert’s situation but that’s all. What’s maybe most important here, to me anyway, is that tossing about such labels as “trampire” and “pervert” is unfair. It makes for good copy and fun gossip but it just isn’t accurate.

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• “Now: He likes her. She STILL doesn’t like him. She’s back with Sparkles, she’s probably still bored with him.”

  Wow. I could NOT agree with you more, Riana. That’s exactly the way I see it.

  As for the married couple someone knew where the injured party made life difficult for the cheater, that would hold water if SHE was the one trying to be affectionate and HE was the one pulling away.

  As for if she’d say not to kiss her real loud like that, there was footage a while back where papps followed R/K from a restaurant and back to their hotel. Rob is trying to be conciliatory and talk to her, and she has just a full-on pissed-off look and says they should wait until they get upstairs to talk about it. Not in a “Hey, the papps are here, let’s wait before we talk” but she said it in the way you’d talk to a child who’d done something wrong.

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• You may be right!
  I have another theory, and also: WARNING, it’s not a conspiracy theory.
  They had a fight. That’s the same way I’d react if my bf tried to get me “over it” in public-you know, when they’re all lovey-dovey, three drinks too many, “oh, come on, you’re still not over that?”. IDK, it just reminded me of these kind of situations.
  It’s just a theory, though.
  Eh, I really think we’ll know the truth a year from BD2, all these stories are just fueling the hype and making profit of it-from media and producers.

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• Uh hmmm. Being screwed by Kstew being a bad thing 4 Rob?

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I don’t understand all the Kristen Stewart hate and never have, although I don’t understand most judgement in general, but I PROMISE you, writing you can’t stand someone (celebrity) you might be shocked to learn you actually liked them when you met them. Actresses like Stewart were plucked- the kind of actors who don’t set out to be actors but are “discovered” are rare but usually among the best- they are really different from a lot of the straight out sociopaths and narcissists out there who are smart and talented, and if I told you what I knew, people would be shocked. I am not about betrayal though, so sorry for not dishing, but half the things I read I know are true (stuff bound to get out) and half the things are creations- by the PR reps and the mags. Don’t get me wrong- I LOVE THIS SITE, the intelligent commenters (some impress me tremendously and some just hurt my feelings) and the writers are terrific, but it still hurts me to read the judge-y comments especially when I know “gosh, if only she knew her, and about him, and what happened with the other hers”, you would retract your comments. Why would someone who is clearly not fame hungry (in this case) be complicit in a PR-stunt? HW is full of them, but every once in a while someone comes along who doesn’t want to follow the game, has little tolerance for pretension bc life is too short and too painful, and doesn’t buy into “celebrity” because they are simply not the self-important type. It’s rare for actors but it exists- and it must suck to have to read about what everyone else thinks of you. I am a sweet person, I love people, but I don’t know how I would tolerate people making up bs and then commenting on my character based on the stuff they read. This is the longest post and I would skim over such a long one, but I just want to suggest thinking twice about putting negativity out there that you aren’t even sure is deserving. I don’t tell anyone what to do, but I couldn’t keep quiet- Kristen is not the hate-able person many people want her to be. Her mannerisms may be annoying, but she is still SO YOUNG and she is just trying to be honest and true to herself in the topsy-turvy world in which she grew up. Watching how most actors/directors/producers operate, what they get away with, I hope one day much of it will be exposed after they have passed. It’s just not what you think, people. There is plenty of truth out there in today’s age, but more half-truths, and most of all, straight up secrets about how sick (mentally) many of these industry peeps are. I am no twilight saga fangirl, but I finally gave in and had to post something. I can’t believe how big twilight got. You guys will see, she IS phenomenally talented and she will be around for a long time. I kind of can’t wait for her to get her confidence and surprise everyone- all her critics- she will. This is a very CATTYYYY business. I wouldn’t trade places with any celebrity, and most of you probably wouldn’t either.

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• I appreciate you long post, kikiher.

  I wouldn’t trade places with any of them either. My husband’s profession brought me in close contact with that world and it is rarely a pretty one. Sick and twisted? Oh yes. Much more so than most would care to know.

  I don’t hate Kristen. In my book she is a confused, emmotionally immature for her years young girl with far too much weight on her shoulders and not the best people in her corner whispering in her ear. His downfall though it was, I can see very well why Rupert felt so sympathetic to her plight. None of this excuses her actions. The piper will be paid for that selfish, ego driven blunder, one way or the other. Here is where we part ways â€" Kristen wants fame as much as anyone who has tasted it. It’s a drug. They want it, they fear it, they hate it, they would do anything for it.

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  • Perhaps rupert has the bad people whispering in his ear and kristen had sympathy for him? Maybe rupert is emotionally immature? Maube rupert will ALSO pay for this mistake. Oh thats right, only kristen sten fits the bill! I love how people give a 22 year old girl so much power over rupert and robert, like rupert was dupped Into Cheating and robert was dupped into taking kristen back.

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• No matter if I agree with you or not (I actually like Stewart as an actress), this is a terrific post, and the points you made should ring in all of our heads while we’re reading gossip.

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• You make interesting points about how shady the business of Hollywood is, kikiher.

  However, your post makes it seem like people are being *mean* to Kristen Stewart for no reason at all. That simply is not the case.

  The primary reason for the tone of the comments against her is her hypocrisy based on things she’s said in interviews. Top that off with her cavorting with a married man and you get these reactions.

  In real life, if you cheat there will be repercussions for both parties involved. In this case, thanks to Kristen’s aggressive PR campaign, she’s viewed as a victim of something she willingly participated in. Rupert has suffered no repercussions either. Yet, the people who got cheated on, Rob and Liberty, have been painted as the villains by Kristen’s PR and her fans, just so Kristen can look good.

  I don’t care how shady Hollywood in general is, Kristen and Rupert should not benefit from what they did. But they are, and that’s what’s disgusting.

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  • I agree with the general proposition that a young person who stars in a HW blockbuster franchise might not know what they are in for. But you get paid for your work and you gotta learn to negotiate this path with some professional grace. While I wouldn’t berate her with negative judgements, I also don’t think she needs to keep feeling sorry for herself or expect the public to.

    Being in HW does not exempt you from a lesson we all have to learn: Actions have consequences.

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• So what are you saying here? That she is not a heartless bitch from hell who’s about to throw Rob under a bus just as soon as BD2 is over? Next you’ll be telling us she actually cares about him and he’s not the pu$$y-whipped delusional clown (almost) everyone here thinks he is. How gullible do you think we are?

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• Kikiher, this is a very interesting perspective, and this: “gosh if only you knew her, and about him, and what happened with the other hers”‘ is a very loaded statement. I don’t believe that their relationship is a PR stunt, but I do believe that their reconciliation is being used to keep the fans onside, in service of BD2, or just to rehab Kristen’s image. I also don’t believe 99% of what is printed by the tabloids. I think most commenters on here have some modicum of intelligence to also not believe it. So what we are left with then, are the words that come out of Kristen’s and Rob’s mouths. And therein lies the problem, and the reason for the “judgy comments” Take Kristen for instance (I”ll get to Rob in a minute, lest anyone accuse me of only gunning for her) â€" She put her personal life on blast with her ill-judged public make-out session with a married man, her public apology in People mag, she has gone on record with personal details about her relationship: my boyfriend likes to lick my armpits, I wanna have his babies. And now, having been spared any personal questions about her summer of shame for months, she finally is asked a simple question, and she responds with sneering disdain and claims that we know even less about her relationship now. Conveniently forgetting that we actually do know some juicy details that she herself provided. Let’s not forget her repeated claims that she is an honest person, and never mind that she did something that is the epitome of dishonesty. Or does she believe that fooling around with a married man while in a long-term relationship herself was an honest expression of her desires that she simply had to follow through on for the sake of her precious authenticity? And what about her derogatory remarks about her peers in the industry who are just so fake and contrived because they appear to be witty and engaging in public appearances while she herself cannot do it. Because authenticity! These are the many reasons why Kristen Stewart is so disliked. She comes across as arrogant and immature. And while she may very well be lovely and sweet in private, why does she project this other persona into the world? This is what most people see. Can so many be wrong? Are we just unable to see beneath the sneer and disdain?

  As for Rob, charming though he is, his passive aggressive deflections are becoming tiresome and pointless. He has willingly participated in at least one staged photo op â€" the pics taken outside the bar in Los Feliz were obviously staged, it was clear from the body language that they knew they were being papped. And now he’ s back to taking digs at the media, as if the last three months hadn’t happened. I don’t expect either of them to divulge anything about their personal life, but giving ridiculous answers just fuels the speculation and does neither of them any good as it just makes the media even more rabid to catch them out. If you’re going to play the PR game even a little bit, don’t get pissy if they ask you an innocuous question such as if you’ve reconciled with your girlfriend, even if it’s obvious that you have.

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  • Re your comments on Rob, just let me point out here that knowing you are being photographed is quite different from staging it. You have no evidence at all that the scene outside the bar was staged. If it was staged to show that R&K were together, it was pretty incompetently done, because he was first filmed with his arm around another girl, to the dismay of many shippers and then (ironically) accused of being cold and standoffish to Kristen. Why do you think they left such negative footage in, if they were in control of the production? The accusation that they have been involved in staged photo-ops is nothing more than speculation, generally on the part of people who choose to ignore inconvenient details like the above. To assume that such accusations are true, without proof and then go on to condemn the guy on that basis is verging on lynch-mob mentality.

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  • I didn’t make a distinction between staging a photo op and knowing that you are being photographed because to me the intent is still the same â€" a PR show to display evidence of their reconciliation. Really, how is that any better than it being staged? Since when have you seen these two lingering outside a public place when they know the paps are around? If it wasn’t a deliberate show, they would have jumped into a nearby dumpster or hightailed it out of there as they have done many times in the past. You know this. Their body language was awkward, most likely due to the discomfort they felt at having to be on display. Hence the negative footage. And by the way, the negative footage was not included in ET’s exclusive. The whole video was leaked on the internet, and has since disappeared. Like I said, I don’t believe anything else was staged; I’m not a conspiracy nut where these two are concerned. I’ve always taken their relationship at face value. But that incident was so obviously a deliberate show, even if they seemed reluctant to do it. Rob’s stint as a cabana boy and all subsequent outings are all very real. I don’t know whether it’s sad or funny at this point.

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• @kikiher
  I appreciate what you are saying, however the reason people dislike Miss Stewart is because SHE gives them so much ammunition for their disgust. As for your tired old argument that Kristen is young, there are many young actresses in Hollywood who don’t behave with such rudeness and disregard for others. What we all need to ask ourselves is, are we willing to hold Miss Stewart to a lower set of standards than we do her peers? Should we condone her rudeness, selfishness and ingratitude on the basis that she is being honest? The purpose of good manners is not to feed the vanity of the person using them, their purpose is to protect the feelings of those around us who might be hurt by our rudeness. As long as Miss Stewart continues to see her selfish and rude behavior as necessary to her so called “honesty” she will be seen as having the mentality of a spoiled child. As for her being “plucked” from obscurity because she’s somehow a special snowflake, it’s that sort of thinking in Hollywood that creates these egotistical brats. By feeding in to this aspect of celebrity culture, you do Miss Stewart no favors. No one on this earth ever got to be a better person by hearing only constant praise of themselves. The proof that this ass kissing is especially detrimental to child actors is daily before us. Please, take some time to think through what is expected of all adults in our society and apply those same expectations to Miss Stewart. You will see that giving her a pass on her responsibilities does her no favors. I’m sorry that you feel she is being treated unfairly, however she must bear her 50% of the blame in the affair with Rupert Sanders. Both parties did something out of pure selfishness that has hurt several innocent people. I know it doesn’t seem like it now, but this will pass and reasonable people will give her another chance. Please bear in mind that the comment sections of gossip blogs are not representative of majority thinking. They are places of opinion only. Many of the people who post here are intelligent, thoughtful people who try to have a balanced perspective. Others are trolls just trying to get a rise out of people. Don’t let them bait you.

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The only thing that even keeps this chick remotely in the spotlight is her bitchiness, so it doesn’t surprise me that she keeps it well-alive in the public eye. She can’t act to save her life, so raking this poor slob over the coals is the sole thing that keeps her googled on a daily basis (again, it’s not her “work” that keeps her in the news).

Go away, Kristen Stewart (eye roll) Please!

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